Lions and Tigers and Bitches! OH MY!
I was always on the outside growing up. It got worse when we moved to an affluent suburb from a crap neighborhood in Chicago. I was the fat, city girl. I had very few friends. And the ones I did have liked to play those, "I'm not your friend today" kind of games. Finally, in my sophomore year of college, after a brief stint with living in an all catty bitches dorm situation, I realized I got along better with dicks than chicks. I completely resigned from seeking female companionship and was so much happier that way. Sure, some of my friends were just trying to fuck me, but that I could handle. I could read guys and deal with them and they accepted me. Life was good for about 12 years.
Then I had kids.
Having kids and becoming a stay at home mom forced me to once again socialize with women. Once again, I was sitting on the outside of the group. I tried La Leche League. I went to Moms Club. My kids and I did Kidsport and Mommy and Me. This time, not only was I shunned, but my kids, too. I haven't felt like this much of a dork, this much of an outcast (in Korean they say "wanta") since I was in junior high school. It is the biggest downfall of motherhood, being surrounded by so many fucking women.
That isn't to say I haven't met some great ladies along the way. I have. Sadly, in the military, we move around so much that they either move or I move and I then have to start all over again. I'm that fat, city girl every couple of years (this year it's actually been every couple of months).
My solution was to connect with some women over the internet. If you haven't been a part of an online community, you have no clue what it's like or the bond that can develop over years of posting your innermost thoughts, heartaches, joys, aspirations and disappointments. My group and I formed a sisterhood through motherhood four and a half years ago. We call ourselves the Friends Forum which is quite the misnomer. We really aren't friends. We are more like sisters. Some in our group dislike others. Some quarrel, others quell the flames. A few have drifted away and many are attached by the apron strings. I have little doubt that there will be some semblance of our group twenty years down the road. It may or may not include me. I don't know.
Still, even in our online circle, there is the catty back stabbing, taking of sides, the Paris-Nicole rehashing and name calling, low blows and general emotional warfare women are so well known for. Why we do it, I do not know. As a feminist, I've said time and time again, women are our own worst enemies. We do more deconstruction, more tearing down one another, than the man ever has... or has had need to. Even those, perhaps especially those that promote women and women's rights. Lesbians, too. Yes, I tried hanging out with lesbians for a couple of years. They too are catty bitches, only in addition, they are fighting over sleeping with other catty bitches.
Anyway, at least with my online group, I don't suffer the same physical humiliation of being ostracized from the group... along with my children. I can close the browser or surf internet porn. And that's just what I'm gonna do.
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I think that these are the exact reasons that I don't have many women friends. Women don't seem to like me. However, I did make many women friends over the internet and unfortunately, they all live far away. I have been fortunate enough to meet some of them in person.
Women are arseholes. I rarely interact with any in real life, for the same reasons you detailed from childhood on. Women in their 30's in my office get mad if so and so doesn't invite them to eat lunch together.
Fuckwits.
I talk to a few women online, because all the little things that annoy me don't occur online. So it works.
I was always on the outside too ... still am when around flesh and body women ... maybe because I have so MUCH body! LOL
Anyhow ... the internet has given me the chance over the years to meet wonderful women and ones that I have forged close, personal ties with. NOW if we were to actually meet, all that nonsense about looking each other over for so long a time just wouldn't be needed.
The internet has been a lifesaver for me!
Good post. asad post, but a good one.
I completely relate to the alienation of it. Not just with women but with anybody, really. I grew up in a political family which has its own way of setting you apart from everybody else.
That's why I love the internet. Here we are essentially pure thought & people can only guage each other on that alone. The way it ought to be.
I know you forgot to say, "with a few notable exceptions. For example, Diane was really cool when we were in Korea together...." Well, since you didn't say that, I'm gonna have to turn catty on you and not speak to you for a while! :) LOL! You know I am totally joking!!!!
Anyway, thanks for the good laugh! And for again reminding me why we are friends - because I relate to you so well!
P.S. Given my current situation - can I save up to come visit and go on a carefree Korea trip? LOL
This post really gets to me. As someone who gets sucked into the drama time and time again, I wonder just how big a part of the problem I am. I've always been aware of that girl on girl emotional violence and theoretically, I'm against it. But when the barbs start flying I can seldom, if ever rise above. I think it about. I plan for the next time I'm in the situation, but I never manage to just float over the crap and stay true to what I know I should do (or NOT do).
In some ways I think the internet makes it worse. When someone is angry it's a lot easier to type something bitchy than it is to say it to someones face. It takes a lot of the passivity out of the aggression. But I still have my sisters and I still keep trying and I am still reaping the rewards of these friendships which means it's still worth it to keep trying. :)
hey Sister.
Could it be it's why we gravitate to the internet? What about us makes it so hard to maintain female relationships? For me, it's the amount of work women expect from a friend. I honestly don't have time for it. Sad sad sad.
But that's what I love about my internet friends. I can go away for a few weeks and they are always still there. At least the ones that matter. I can pop on for 2 minutes and say hi and sometimes it's enough.
You are one hell of a woman, and I love you. Be true to who you are, and screw the rest of them.
Well if someone whipped out a naked video of you at your own birthday party, would you still be friends with that person?!
I never realized how mean some kids can be until my kids started experiencing it. Now everything's cool but I can't stand seeing my kids hurt when when their friends has bummed them out.
I used to be part of an online community, the catty, bitchy backstabbing behind the scenes and between "boards" made me take a serious look at myself. I "felt" like I had to participate in order to be one of the cool kids. I hated myself for it.
I turned to blogging, people can choose to talk to me, or leave. In an online community, people would WHINE about lack of responses on their posts, so others would feel obligated to respond, even if they disliked them. I posted with those women for the better part of three years, I miss some of them, but I've also noticed that no one has gone looking for me.
I'm impressed with your site, very nice graphics!
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